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I think whoever gets the ball will be doing better than ever this year because the offensive line is........."offensive". This is the most experienced and deepest O-line we've had since the 80's. Especially loaded with run blockers. This might be the team's #1 position of strength.

This may be the primary (yet overlooked) reason this Gator team should be one of the greatest offenses in the history of college football.

As for Brandon James, I am solidly against him carrying the rock. Not because he can't, but because there's no reason to risk injury there when we have other guys that can do it. I think B James is the best return man in college football and he is absolutely one of our most important players. Before the game even starts, we know we have won the field position battle just because of the presence of Brandon James. Whether they kick to him or kick it out of bounds and take penalties, we win.

After Tebow and Harvin, James is the next player that I think of in terms of high value.


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Bottom-line is whomever is RB needs at least 20 touches a game....period. You can't become a reliable back until you get the carries. Look at Fred Taylor in the 97 FSU game, he had 3 fumbles. I think adding the I formation this spring with Tebow under center will benefit the running game big time. Remember Spurrier ran the ball 51% of the time while at UF.
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Spurrier did do that, but he abandoned the run at the most inexplicable times, like at MSU for instance.

I agree, too, that James needs to be the return man extraordinaire for UF. And don't forget, it's only been one season sinced they moved the kickoff back.

I still think spring practice and the O & B game will go a long way in pointing out a 20 carry per game back, and I need to see Moody and Williams prove they are not the guy while Kestahn has a looong way to go to prove that he is.
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I will feel better about our running backs about 2-3 weeks into the season when Moore plays his way out and Moody and Rainey play their way in. I appreciate the fact that Moore is a hard ass worker and a team guy, but he lacks the cutback ability and creativity to take it to the house, and I still haven't forgiven him for the fumbles last year. I also respect coach Meyer for giving him another shot this year, even though we bailed on him last year. I think we are loaded with talent at RB, but ultimately i think the two that are going to shine will be Moody and Rainey. James is too valuable as a return man and doesn't seem to have the same field vision as a RB than as a return man, and Williams knee was already swelling up on him this spring and I don't know if he'll make it through a full season.
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Think Moore is probably an outstanding young man; the coaches love him and have nothing but good things to say.

He needs to step it up with the competition this year.
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I will feel better about our running backs about 2-3 weeks into the season when Moore plays his way out and Moody and Rainey play their way in. I appreciate the fact that Moore is a hard ass worker and a team guy, but he lacks the cutback ability and creativity to take it to the house, and I still haven't forgiven him for the fumbles last year. I also respect coach Meyer for giving him another shot this year, even though we bailed on him last year. I think we are loaded with talent at RB, but ultimately i think the two that are going to shine will be Moody and Rainey. James is too valuable as a return man and doesn't seem to have the same field vision as a RB than as a return man, and Williams knee was already swelling up on him this spring and I don't know if he'll make it through a full season.


Had ACL surgery about three years ago. It was an up and down thing. Sometimes it would ache for no reason, puff-up etc. Fine now, but it does take a while. I'd think this year is an adjustment year for him getting to trust the knee again. The knee will continue to improve, but he's just got to get used to it being good.
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other teams know of Moores fumbling and will try even harder than normal to strip it from him. I just dont feel comfortable with him.

In practice they need to try to strip it from him relentlessly (sp?)
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Never understood people saying that James shouldn't be risked as a RB...but who seem fine with running Tebow or Harvin. Granted, I understand the logic (taking so many hits over the course of the season is asking for trouble)...but I don't think anyone is asking James to be the every down RB.

I see him as a scatback: someone to take option pitches or plays designed to get him in space and utilize the same elusive ability on offense that he gives us on special teams. Whenever James ran the ball for us last year, he did fairly well and it never made sense why we didn't utilize his talents a bit more.
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Having Kenny Carter as a coach should help all of our Running Backs hold onto the ball better. Because ball security is his SPECIALTY, and one of the main reasons (along with being a great recruiter) he was hired.

By the time the season is ready to start, I doubt Moore, or any other RB we have for that matter, will be fumbling the ball.
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kyle jackson gave his all for uf. sadly he wasn't very good.

also, sadly, jackson = moore

last year, as a consensus we said if kj starts at safety, we are 8-4 and in the cap 1. right on.

if moore is our main rb, we are 9-3 and in the outback.


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Never understood people saying that James shouldn't be risked as a RB...but who seem fine with running Tebow or Harvin. Granted, I understand the logic (taking so many hits over the course of the season is asking for trouble)...but I don't think anyone is asking James to be the every down RB.

I see him as a scatback: someone to take option pitches or plays designed to get him in space and utilize the same elusive ability on offense that he gives us on special teams. Whenever James ran the ball for us last year, he did fairly well and it never made sense why we didn't utilize his talents a bit more.
Agreed. Something along the lines of how LSU used T. Holliday would be great. Bring him in as a spark or change of pace, or even a decoy. It doesn't hurt that he could potentially take it to the house any time he touches it.
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Never understood people saying that James shouldn't be risked as a RB...but who seem fine with running Tebow or Harvin. Granted, I understand the logic (taking so many hits over the course of the season is asking for trouble)...but I don't think anyone is asking James to be the every down RB.

I see him as a scatback: someone to take option pitches or plays designed to get him in space and utilize the same elusive ability on offense that he gives us on special teams. Whenever James ran the ball for us last year, he did fairly well and it never made sense why we didn't utilize his talents a bit more.
Agreed. Something along the lines of how LSU used T. Holliday would be great. Bring him in as a spark or change of pace, or even a decoy. It doesn't hurt that he could potentially take it to the house any time he touches it.


Exactly. I mean, I realize Rainey brings the exact same thing to the table-but James is no less talented than Rainey and both guys give 110% to get as many yards as possible. Most practice reports I've read have said both Rainey and James routinely are getting yards up the middle-on the outside, anywhere. If thats what they bring to the table...then by all means...bring that to the table.
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UF Coach Kenny Carter on Ball Security!

http://www.active.com/football/Articles/Ball_security.htm

That's what I like to see (500+ words on "Ball Security"). Notice he advocates being able to utilized the proper technique with both arms. I think that's a great development goal.
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UF Coach Kenny Carter on Ball Security!

http://www.active.com/football/Articles/Ball_security.htm

That's what I like to see (500+ words on "Ball Security"). Notice he advocates being able to utilized the proper technique with both arms. I think that's a great development goal.


As I said earlier in the thread, that's his specialty. Smiler
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Having Kenny Carter as a coach should help all of our Running Backs hold onto the ball better. Because ball security is his SPECIALTY, and one of the main reasons (along with being a great recruiter) he was hired.

By the time the season is ready to start, I doubt Moore, or any other RB we have for that matter, will be fumbling the ball.


The RB coaches provide an interesting little subplot, too. I'll be keeping an eye out on Stan Drayton's vol RBs while of course watching to see the Gators improve under Carter. If Carter can get Kestahn to be the back, it will be interesting to see if there's similar success at UT.

And you can bet the RBs and their coaches will be one of College Game Day's story lines for the pre-game hype, whether they're in Knoxiousville or knot.

I'm not looking to blame Drayton, but I will if it's obvious.
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Having Kenny Carter as a coach should help all of our Running Backs hold onto the ball better. Because ball security is his SPECIALTY, and one of the main reasons (along with being a great recruiter) he was hired.

By the time the season is ready to start, I doubt Moore, or any other RB we have for that matter, will be fumbling the ball.


The RB coaches provide an interesting little subplot, too. I'll be keeping an eye out on Stan Drayton's vol RBs while of course watching to see the Gators improve under Carter. If Carter can get Kestahn to be the back, it will be interesting to see if there's similar success at UT.

And you can bet the RBs and their coaches will be one of College Game Day's story lines for the pre-game hype, whether they're in Knoxiousville or knot.

I'm not looking to blame Drayton, but I will if it's obvious.


agreed, muddy, and the same goes for the secondary.....


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Moore WON'T be leading the way for very long.


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