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Originally posted by gatorsid:
I have no problem with society saying dog fighting is horrible. I do have a problem with society saying someone who is associated with the sport is immoral and should be shunned by mainstream society.

Horse racing is a sport I find loathesome. I had two horses in my life. I loved to ride them. I have a lot of respect for horse owners. I however, have a problem with putting them through what they go through in horse racing. Half that don't turn out to be fit to race are often destroyed or killed for pet food, then turn around and honor and praise the participants. See the URL below. The ones that do race, do so under tremendous duress and stress.

All of this is done for what? MONEY.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060409/ai_n16185502

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...008050301707_pf.html

Then you have dog sled racing, which is also barbaric, because it is not done for anything other than sport and money. Dogs die for no other reason, and the owners are praised and honored as heros. http://www.helpsleddogs.org/remarks.htm

Typical in this country, if a rural poor white community or a poor black community in this country fights dogs, the legislature bans it and call them out of touch with society.

Call dog fighting barbaric, but the reality is the legislature doesn’t see an ounce of the cash in the form of taxes so they banish the sport. The legislature could never get the sports sanctioned to be able to tax the sport, so they establish laws stating the public finds it offensive and it has to cease. Fine by me, I don't believe in dog fighting.

But horse racing and dog racing...now their form or carnage is not as sensational or dramatic, therefore acceptable, so the legislatures can sanction the sports and tax their revenues and tax the winnings. The people in this sport are not poor whites or poor blacks, so their brand of animal cruelty is ok, we look away at the abuse the animals endure. The participants have some money and deemed legitimate and the participants are not painted as immoral degenerates.

Ban gambling on horse and dog races, as well as outlaw the sports if we are going to try and be a consistent nation.

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Originally posted by gatorsid:
I have no problem with society saying dog fighting is horrible. I do have a problem with society saying someone who is associated with the sport is immoral and should be shunned by mainstream society.

Horse racing is a sport I find loathesome. I had two horses in my life. I loved to ride them. I have a lot of respect for horse owners. I however, have a problem with putting them through what they go through in horse racing. Half that don't turn out to be fit to race are often destroyed or killed for pet food, then turn around and honor and praise the participants. See the URL below. The ones that do race, do so under tremendous duress and stress.

All of this is done for what? MONEY.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060409/ai_n16185502

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...008050301707_pf.html

Then you have dog sled racing, which is also barbaric, because it is not done for anything other than sport and money. Dogs die for no other reason, and the owners are praised and honored as heros. http://www.helpsleddogs.org/remarks.htm

Typical in this country, if a rural poor white community or a poor black community in this country fights dogs, the legislature bans it and call them out of touch with society.

Call dog fighting barbaric, but the reality is the legislature doesn’t see an ounce of the cash in the form of taxes so they banish the sport. The legislature could never get the sports sanctioned to be able to tax the sport, so they establish laws stating the public finds it offensive and it has to cease. Fine by me, I don't believe in dog fighting.

But horse racing and dog racing...now their form or carnage is not as sensational or dramatic, therefore acceptable, so the legislatures can sanction the sports and tax their revenues and tax the winnings. The people in this sport are not poor whites or poor blacks, so their brand of animal cruelty is ok, we look away at the abuse the animals endure. The participants have some money and deemed legitimate and the participants are not painted as immoral degenerates.

Ban gambling on horse and dog races, as well as outlaw the sports if we are going to try and be a consistent nation.

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Originally posted by Pee Dee Gator:

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Originally posted by gatorsid:
I have no problem with society saying dog fighting is horrible. I do have a problem with society saying someone who is associated with the sport is immoral and should be shunned by mainstream society.

Horse racing is a sport I find loathesome. I had two horses in my life. I loved to ride them. I have a lot of respect for horse owners. I however, have a problem with putting them through what they go through in horse racing. Half that don't turn out to be fit to race are often destroyed or killed for pet food, then turn around and honor and praise the participants. See the URL below. The ones that do race, do so under tremendous duress and stress.

All of this is done for what? MONEY.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060409/ai_n16185502

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...008050301707_pf.html

Then you have dog sled racing, which is also barbaric, because it is not done for anything other than sport and money. Dogs die for no other reason, and the owners are praised and honored as heros. http://www.helpsleddogs.org/remarks.htm

Typical in this country, if a rural poor white community or a poor black community in this country fights dogs, the legislature bans it and call them out of touch with society.

Call dog fighting barbaric, but the reality is the legislature doesn’t see an ounce of the cash in the form of taxes so they banish the sport. The legislature could never get the sports sanctioned to be able to tax the sport, so they establish laws stating the public finds it offensive and it has to cease. Fine by me, I don't believe in dog fighting.

But horse racing and dog racing...now their form or carnage is not as sensational or dramatic, therefore acceptable, so the legislatures can sanction the sports and tax their revenues and tax the winnings. The people in this sport are not poor whites or poor blacks, so their brand of animal cruelty is ok, we look away at the abuse the animals endure. The participants have some money and deemed legitimate and the participants are not painted as immoral degenerates.

Ban gambling on horse and dog races, as well as outlaw the sports if we are going to try and be a consistent nation.

Need to save a whale or hug a tree?

I think I will go club a baby seal.

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

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Originally posted by oxrageous:
A pretentious, liberal, soapboxy, holier-than-thou post from Gatorsid? I'm shocked!

Get over yourself.

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Originally posted by Pee Dee Gator:

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Originally posted by gatorsid:
I have no problem with society saying dog fighting is horrible. I do have a problem with society saying someone who is associated with the sport is immoral and should be shunned by mainstream society.

Horse racing is a sport I find loathesome. I had two horses in my life. I loved to ride them. I have a lot of respect for horse owners. I however, have a problem with putting them through what they go through in horse racing. Half that don't turn out to be fit to race are often destroyed or killed for pet food, then turn around and honor and praise the participants. See the URL below. The ones that do race, do so under tremendous duress and stress.

All of this is done for what? MONEY.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060409/ai_n16185502

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...008050301707_pf.html

Then you have dog sled racing, which is also barbaric, because it is not done for anything other than sport and money. Dogs die for no other reason, and the owners are praised and honored as heros. http://www.helpsleddogs.org/remarks.htm

Typical in this country, if a rural poor white community or a poor black community in this country fights dogs, the legislature bans it and call them out of touch with society.

Call dog fighting barbaric, but the reality is the legislature doesn’t see an ounce of the cash in the form of taxes so they banish the sport. The legislature could never get the sports sanctioned to be able to tax the sport, so they establish laws stating the public finds it offensive and it has to cease. Fine by me, I don't believe in dog fighting.

But horse racing and dog racing...now their form or carnage is not as sensational or dramatic, therefore acceptable, so the legislatures can sanction the sports and tax their revenues and tax the winnings. The people in this sport are not poor whites or poor blacks, so their brand of animal cruelty is ok, we look away at the abuse the animals endure. The participants have some money and deemed legitimate and the participants are not painted as immoral degenerates.

Ban gambling on horse and dog races, as well as outlaw the sports if we are going to try and be a consistent nation.

Need to save a whale or hug a tree?

I think I will go club a baby seal.

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

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Originally posted by gatorsid:

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

You are not in my league son!

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Originally posted by gatorsid:

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

You are not in my league son!

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Originally posted by gatorsid:

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

You are not in my league son!

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Originally posted by GatorKen:

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

if only there was one horse race a year


And comparing it to nascar? If you get into a car knowing you are going to be reaching speeds between 180 and 200 mph you have done your risk managment. Next if you drive into a wall at 180 mph what can you expect?

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Originally posted by jagator0:

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Originally posted by GatorKen:

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Originally posted by jagator0:
I see Sid is still a complete idiot. At least he is consistent. Hey Sid. There have been 134 Kentucky Derbys. Do you know how many deaths they've had? ONE. That's safer than NASCAR fo crying out loud!! In digfighting, a dog dies in EVERY event. You're comparing a sfight to the death sport with a sport that when an animal dies, the trainer feels like he's lost a family member?? Michael Vick and his ilk are scum who drowned dogs, electrocuted them, and shot them. But we all know what you're REAL problem with Vick going to jail is don't we? Do I have to say it?

if only there was one horse race a year


And comparing it to nascar? If you get into a car knowing you are going to be reaching speeds between 180 and 200 mph you have done your risk managment. Next if you drive into a wall at 180 mph what can you expect?

The point is dipshit, NASCAR is more likely to get one of it's competitors killed than a horse race. Nobody is screaming for an end to stock car racing. Plus when a competitor dies in a car race, it's somebody's husband or father or son. Not a horse. But let a dumb animal die and we have to shut down the friggin sport. Now if the horses were running off a cliff and people were betting on which one would chicken out and which one would die, then I could see shutting it down.