I am not quite up to speed but is he leaving the team. I see a lot of speculation about this on the recruiting board. This can not happen. Is it money or does he want to move on and be a head coach. Why is he not even considered when jobs open up that being said I hope we keep him. Any update would be appreciated!!!!

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Originally posted by MANUTDGATOR:
Why is he not even considered when jobs open up(?)

It is unfortunate but he may well be a victim of racism. Not because he is black, persay, but because his wife is white and he is black. From what I've read in the past it has been an issue, especially in the high exposure position of a HC and boosters, etc. Take that for what it's worth, I did when I heard it.

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Originally posted by MANUTDGATOR:
I see a lot of speculation about this on the recruiting board.

How about a few links... since there is 'a lot of speculation.'

Unfortunately for us, Charlie will probably get a head coaching job after this season. Let's hope it isn't Georgia!

South Carolina. Spurrier wants to play the Nationwide Tour.

I don't think there is too much credibility to this story.

There will be 0 head coach openings in the SEC after this year. Strong always said it would have to be the right job for him to leave. Will UCF be that job? Maybe but I doubt he would want to recruit against UF, FSU, scUM, LSU, Bama, Tenn, and UGA every year with fewer resources.

I'm hoping we put up some more cash and keep him. He needs at least a million a year imo.

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Originally posted by Urban4Pope:
I don't think there is too much credibility to this story.

There will be 0 head coach openings in the SEC after this year. Strong always said it would have to be the right job for him to leave. Will UCF be that job? Maybe but I doubt he would want to recruit against UF, FSU, scUM, LSU, Bama, Tenn, and UGA every year with fewer resources.

Strong came out last year and said that he was turned away from 2 jobs because he was married to a white woman. He was told that the boosters wouldn't accept it.

I am assuming one job was for Ole Miss.

Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

Yeah, sure... that's the main reason...

It's true that he isn't a great public speaker, but I find it hard to believe that there isn't some school willing to take a chance on a brilliant football mind like his.

And some schools are embarrassed by having a head coach who CAN talk. Like Tennessee...

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

Yeah, sure... that's the main reason...

It's true that he isn't a great public speaker, but I find it hard to believe that there isn't some school willing to take a chance on a brilliant football mind like his.

And some schools are embarrassed by having a head coach who CAN talk. Like Tennessee...

Strong is one of the top assistants in coaching. He's good at coaching. But that doesn't mean he'll be a sucessful Head Coach. First the Head Coach has to be an adminstrator and manager. He is the face of the program. He has to think strategicaly beyond the lines of the football field. Strong is a good coach, he doesn't have the rest of the skills. And as far as public speaking ability...scale of 1 = 10, Kiffin is a 5, Strong is a 2. Strong wouldn't make it as a Head Coach. For the last 15 years, he has botched every interview opportunity he has had for a Head Coaching job.

Give him Monte Kiffin's money but if he gets a head coaching job that is worth it he should take it. Virginia is the rumor I heard.

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Seriously, I'm so tired of people belittling CS with crap. Where in print or media has anyone said he doesn't interview well? He looks pretty damn solid to me with the media. If not the smoothest, he's DEFINITELY more dynamic than UM's coach. Fulmer use to sound like he was drug out of the Tenn. woods.

His not being a HC definitely has more to do with the status of his interracial marriage than anything else. Turner Gill is dealing with the same glass ceiling. I hate that people would rather pile on to CS being some mental midget than just call it for what it is. There's racism in this world and maybe more prevalent among elite college football programs.

Seriously, if you have boosters powerful enough to pry Boobie Bowden away from FSU's program...There's ones at every school powerful enough to end CS candidacy before it even started. To think otherwise is naive.

Charlie Strong is not a Head Coach because he doesn't have the skills to be a Head Coach. Blaming his interracial marriage is a convenient scapegoat.

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Charlie Strong at 4:10
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Charlie Strong at :43
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Seriously, I'm so tired of people belittling CS with crap. Where in print or media has anyone said he doesn't interview well? He looks pretty damn solid to me with the media. If not the smoothest, he's DEFINITELY more dynamic than UM's coach. Fulmer use to sound like he was drug out of the Tenn. woods.

His not being a HC definitely has more to do with the status of his interracial marriage than anything else. Turner Gill is dealing with the same glass ceiling. I hate that people would rather pile on to CS being some mental midget than just call it for what it is. There's racism in this world and maybe more prevalent among elite college football programs.

Seriously, if you have boosters powerful enough to pry Boobie Bowden away from FSU's program...There's ones at every school powerful enough to end CS candidacy before it even started. To think otherwise is naive.

He has obviously been working on his public speaking. He sounds good. Before, not so much. I think it's a lot easier to pull the race card than admit that you need to take a public speaking class and annunciate your words better. The truth hurts.

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

Yeah, sure... that's the main reason...

It's true that he isn't a great public speaker, but I find it hard to believe that there isn't some school willing to take a chance on a brilliant football mind like his.

And some schools are embarrassed by having a head coach who CAN talk. Like Tennessee...

Strong is one of the top assistants in coaching. He's good at coaching. But that doesn't mean he'll be a sucessful Head Coach. First the Head Coach has to be an adminstrator and manager. He is the face of the program. He has to think strategicaly beyond the lines of the football field. Strong is a good coach, he doesn't have the rest of the skills. And as far as public speaking ability...scale of 1 = 10, Kiffin is a 5, Strong is a 2. Strong wouldn't make it as a Head Coach. For the last 15 years, he has botched every interview opportunity he has had for a Head Coaching job.

How do you know this? Like I said, I agree he isn't a great public speaker. But how do you know he doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach. If he had a head coaching gig and failed at it, then you can make statements like that. But he hasn't had a head coaching gig, save for 1 game as an interim at UF. Truth is, you'll never know 'til somebody steps up and gives him the opportunity he deserves.

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

You've been to lots of Gator booster club meetings, Ms uga???

You can't just give somebody a job.

All somebody can ask for is an opportunity.

He's had that opportunity. He's interviewed.

He's inverviewed and interviewed and interviewed and interviewed. He is messing it up. Not the people doing the hiritng.

Mr. SEC I really don't get where you're getting your source information from. I think you're just pulling it out your a**. Break out the "story" of the time you met Strong. I just don't believe that Strong could have survived the Meyer transition if he didn't interview well. Public speaking is his downfall? Give me the proof. Where are these interviews where he's sounding like an idiot? The media loves a juicy story, they'd be piling on if they could make CS look like an uneducated retard!

I just think there are alumni at every school that think a team of black athletes, lead by a black man with a white wife is a bad bad thing. What would that lead to? Lots of interracial marriages? LMAO I know for a fact there's people that consider this a "worst case scenario." hahahaha

I don't know why Charlie Strong has never landed a Head Coaching job. He's had every opportunity in the world, and then some. The obvious reason is, the people who decide don't think he can do the job. Is that because of his interracial marriage or that because he doen't have the rest of the skill set? Hell if I know, I'm not in those meetings.

Whatever. It's all here nor there, because I fully expect him to take a head coaching position in the off season. Charlie Strong is going to be out of here folks.

Except, this is like the eighth year in a row we've heard that mantra.

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

Contrary to your ridiculous assessment, the only thing embarrassing in this entire forum is allowing posters to bash the UF players and coaches endlessly and needlessly.

I hope UF gives Strong the kind of money he deserves and is necessary to keep him around. Apparently, most of the folks who actually know what it takes to be a HC think he's long overdue for a position.

Great guy. I think he will get a good job probably in the Big 10. They love the defense. I wish him all the best.

LOL Mr. SEC you're a relic. A true throwback (no pun intended). Think what you want of CS, the guy hasn't been "losing ground." Regardless of whether he's gotten a HC before or not. I'm glad he's had his time with Urban. I really have a ton of faith in the UM coaching tree. You're just so full of unfounded conjecture, that your point of view is almost entirely worthless.

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
Charlie Strong does poorly in press conferences and he doesn't present himself well at booster club meetings. He is a sub standard public speaker. Schools don't want to be embarrassed by having a head coach who can't talk. That is really the main reason he's not a head coach.

You are an idiot. I met coach Strong in Lakeland while he was here recruiting the Dreadnaught group. He was congenial and well spoken. I have heard him speak a few other times and never did it cross my mind that he was a poor speaker. His wife is white (and from Lakeland), yes. In this day and age, they're marriage should not hinder him from getting a HC job but...people are still racially biased. Perhaps they are alot like you Mr. SEC. I think coach Strong is a very good DC and should get a shot. Who knows if he will be a success? I know the Gators will hate to lose him either way. You on the other hand Mr. SEC should just get lost.

Wow! Some of you guys here that are bashing Strong must not be able to look at the whole picture. I know for sure that when the Auburn job came up he was not cosidered because of his color. For you Mr SEC are you telling me that 119 coaches out there are better than him. I am not saying that he would be the greatest thing since slice bread, but hell if Zook can get a job at Florida, than Strong should be able to get a head job. I have heard Zook talk to the booster clubs and I left with my head hurting.

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Originally posted by Mr. SEC:
You can't just give somebody a job.

All somebody can ask for is an opportunity.

He's had that opportunity. He's interviewed.

He's inverviewed and interviewed and interviewed and interviewed. He is messing it up. Not the people doing the hiritng.

IMHO, he has NOT been given the opportunity. How many of those "interviews" were just to get the check in the block? I would be willing to bet you a beer that there have been more tan one of those that were the token interview because the rules state that a minority coach must e interviewed.
I have heard (on GSMB) that CS has said himself that he will not do another interview unless there is a serious effort to sign him as the HBC.

I'm not getting into anything or sharing anything on these public forums, but Mr. SEC is more correct than he is incorrect. Eventually it will happen, but it hasn't for some of those reasons.

I'm going to be brutally honest with you guys: I really don't think he'd be that great of a head coach. Has he developed into a solid defensive coordinator? Yes, but then again, it's UF and he's got a head coach now who places a strong emphasis on defensive recruiting. I also think UF's assistant Defensive coaches are underrated...Heater, definitely McCarney (who should get a head job again before Strong, imo), Bedford (who made an instant impact with UF's secondary after beating UF with Michigan and being part of one of the few staffs that was able to lock down Percy Harvin). These guys are probably your true difference makers.

Everyone says that the major difference with Strong is that Zook handcuffed him but Meyer has turned him loose. Zook vehemently denies those allegations and, even though I think Zook is a loser, I doubt he's lying. I think it's like Spurrier said: Strong has evolved within the past few years and it's probably been a case of the other coaches influencing him rather than Meyer "taking off Zook's handcuffs."

I guess he deserves a chance, at least. But if I was an AD at a major program, I wouldn't hire him. He'd need to have shown me he could win at somewhere like FIU or Louisiana-Monroe before I would hand him the keys to my program. Being a successful coordinator at programs like Miami, FSU, and Florida is one thing...running those programs is another. We have had that experience with Coach Shannon, who was a Frank BRoyles "Assistant of the Year" award winner and even on a lot of Gator fans shortlist to replace Ron Zook. He's a great guy and 110% Cane...but he still had to do "On the Job Training" and we took our lumps for 2 years before getting back to championship contention and elite status this year.

So, it basically boils down to is the program going to be patient for potentially 3-5 years before Strong can learn on the job enough to begin truly competing. Because I seriously doubt he would field a contender right away.

He's not Bob Stoops.