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When a kid is told that he will play and be an integral part of the team, and then it doesn't happen I would have to say that is a lie.

Just sayin' . . .
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Perhaps when Lame started urging Newkeys to lie to other coaches, telling him how great and hilarious it is to be a liar, he should have suspected something.

Oh well. Now he has learned an important lesson about trusting people like Lame who have no moral character. Parents-- take note of what happens to young men who put their trust in Lame.


This is so very true...

Nu'Keese leaving Tennessee and telling the world what happened will be devastating to Kiffin's recruiting...


Interesting to hear the Gator spin on Nu'Keese. I imagine that what is going on is that he is homesick and, despite his obvious talent, earning playing time is difficult for frehsmen. Kiffin is playing numerous freshmen. Problem for Nu'Keese is that he is somewhat undersized. If he leaves, that's too bad, but it won't be because of Kiffin's lies or whatever other crap you guys are spewing, it will be because he wasn't either talented enough to make it happen or patient enough to get better and get on the field.


I never claimed "Kiffin's Lies"...and "we" aren't spewing anything here..."we" are just commenting on what others are saying including other boards and what some media outlets are reporting...

We'll see what happens...but he and Bryce Brown were Lane's two most prized recruits...if Nu'Keese leaves the program it will be a problem for Lane Kiffin...regardless of the reasons...


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Many here recognized what this was all about from the beginning. The whole Richardson recruitment was more about subtracting a playmaker from UF("winning a battle") than adding a playmaker to ut.

From his size/speed to his general skillset, he was a perfect fit for our offense and may have been able to see the field right away. Different offense, coaches who didn't know your name until about 2 weeks before signing day, and a whole different scenario at ut.

I don't blame LK at all...that's recruiting. And IF any of these rumors turn out to be correct, he will provide a nice example for future recruits who are thiking of making foolish decisions.

His family wanted him to go to UF...his coaches took time to guide him through the recruiting process and encouraged him to go to UF...and Meyer developed a long term relationship with him to get him to UF. He rejected their help. If this all blows up in his face, he has NO ONE to blame but himself.


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Many here recognized what this was all about from the beginning. The whole Richardson recruitment was more about subtracting a playmaker from UF("winning a battle") than adding a playmaker to ut.

From his size/speed to his general skillset, he was a perfect fit for our offense and may have been able to see the field right away. Different offense, coaches who didn't know your name until about 2 weeks before signing day, and a whole different scenario at ut.

I don't blame LK at all...that's recruiting. And IF any of these rumors turn out to be correct, he will provide a nice example for future recruits who are thiking of making foolish decisions.

His family wanted him to go to UF...his coaches took time to guide him through the recruiting process and encouraged him to go to UF...and Meyer developed a long term relationship with him to get him to UF. He rejected their help. If this all blows up in his face, he has NO ONE to blame but himself.


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Bleeds, earlier this year, NuKeys was the man. You and your Vol bretheren were spouting off how you stole him from UF and how he was going to see significant playing time this year.

I see how you are now a total 180 on this now. Typical Vol fans.


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That was lames desperate ploy to make a name for his self with recruiting Nukees. It worked for a time and now it may back fire. Nukees was never a fit in Ut's football, they really had to try to figure away to have him participate in some offensive plays. If your only objective is to recruit other teams players rather than try to fit the bill with your own, well you may never get notices in the SEC as a winning football team, just merely a recruiting Biteoch. Maybe lamey boy did us a favor, I hope we get someone better this year in his place.


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Nu keese can leave if he wants, its obvious that UT doesn't need him, as he has not been of much significance in any UT game.
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Nu keese can leave if he wants, its obvious that UT doesn't need him, as he has not been of much significance in any UT game.

Yes, with your undefeated record, it's obvious he hasn't been needed. Laugh


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Different offense, coaches who didn't know your name until about 2 weeks before signing day, and a whole different scenario at ut.

His family wanted him to go to UF...his coaches took time to guide him through the recruiting process and encouraged him to go to UF...and Meyer developed a long term relationship with him to get him to UF. He rejected their help. If this all blows up in his face, he has NO ONE to blame but himself.


Much of this is factually inaccurate. Eddie Gran recruited Richardson and they had developed a relationship more than two weeks before signing day. Also, on Nu'Keese's visit, his aunts came with him and they were sold on our program as much as he was. If anything, they pushed him to go where he felt comfortable and that was here.

Kiffin nevers promises a recruit anything more than the opportunity to compete. And that is true, when they arrive they go straight in with the 1's. If it doesn't work out, then it's probably because he isn't good enough. The bus hasn't left the station though, and Richardson may stay and develop into a good football player for us yet.
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Nu keese can leave if he wants, its obvious that UT doesn't need him, as he has not been of much significance in any UT game.


You are another one that was spouting off how you stole him from UF. All of you are idiots.


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The irony of all this is that NewKeys could well have played an integral role in the Gator offense this year. I think he snubbed UF because he didn't think he could compete with Andre Debose for the Percy position. So he lied to everyone at UF and caused a huge stir by signing with Kitten where he's been a total bust. If he'd been smart - which he apparently isn't - he'd have honored his commitment to Urban and might have been a key player on what may turn out to be a National Championship team. Kids do dumb thing (so do we adults, for that matter) and now he's paying the price. Hopefully this will be a good lesson for Dunkley and Luc and Chaz Green, who are now flirting with UT.
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I posted on the Recruiting forum that I saw Luc Friday night completely destroy a very good and undefeated and ranked Vero Beach team from his LB position.

When they ran onto the field it looked like a bunch of Pop Warner kids with a full-grown college kid in their midst. VB is very good and sent Zeke Motta to ND last year. Luc is much better!

Bank on it...
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Originally posted by GRBman:
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Originally posted by playnefolk:
Perhaps when Lame started urging Newkeys to lie to other coaches, telling him how great and hilarious it is to be a liar, he should have suspected something.

Oh well. Now he has learned an important lesson about trusting people like Lame who have no moral character. Parents-- take note of what happens to young men who put their trust in Lame.


This is so very true...

Nu'Keese leaving Tennessee and telling the world what happened will be devastating to Kiffin's recruiting...


Interesting to hear the Gator spin on Nu'Keese. I imagine that what is going on is that he is homesick and, despite his obvious talent, earning playing time is difficult for frehsmen. Kiffin is playing numerous freshmen. Problem for Nu'Keese is that he is somewhat undersized. If he leaves, that's too bad, but it won't be because of Kiffin's lies or whatever other crap you guys are spewing, it will be because he wasn't either talented enough to make it happen or patient enough to get better and get on the field.


Homesick? Are you kidding? Man, Kiffin really has you UT fans by the balls.
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Different offense, coaches who didn't know your name until about 2 weeks before signing day, and a whole different scenario at ut.

His family wanted him to go to UF...his coaches took time to guide him through the recruiting process and encouraged him to go to UF...and Meyer developed a long term relationship with him to get him to UF. He rejected their help. If this all blows up in his face, he has NO ONE to blame but himself.


Much of this is factually inaccurate. Eddie Gran recruited Richardson and they had developed a relationship more than two weeks before signing day. Also, on Nu'Keese's visit, his aunts came with him and they were sold on our program as much as he was. If anything, they pushed him to go where he felt comfortable and that was here.

Kiffin nevers promises a recruit anything more than the opportunity to compete. And that is true, when they arrive they go straight in with the 1's. If it doesn't work out, then it's probably because he isn't good enough. The bus hasn't left the station though, and Richardson may stay and develop into a good football player for us yet.


The "two weeks" was hyperbole...Richardson had a relationship with Meyer for a long time, as indicated by his May 2008 verbal. The ut coaches may have had contact and some sustained communication, but Meyer had a long relationship with him...not the same.

It was also well documented that several in his family, most notably his deceased greandmother, wanted him to go to UF. The aunts may have liked it, but that's just more "getting caught up in the moment" behavior.

Your coach flat out said that the main reason he asked NR to kkep his switch quiet was to prevent people around him from swaying him back...aka his coach and people who were objective enough to see a potential mistake.

As for your last line, read my post. I clearly stated that whatever LK said or promised was irreleveant...NR has to be smarter in his decisions.


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Different offense, coaches who didn't know your name until about 2 weeks before signing day, and a whole different scenario at ut.

His family wanted him to go to UF...his coaches took time to guide him through the recruiting process and encouraged him to go to UF...and Meyer developed a long term relationship with him to get him to UF. He rejected their help. If this all blows up in his face, he has NO ONE to blame but himself.


Much of this is factually inaccurate. Eddie Gran recruited Richardson and they had developed a relationship more than two weeks before signing day. Also, on Nu'Keese's visit, his aunts came with him and they were sold on our program as much as he was. If anything, they pushed him to go where he felt comfortable and that was here.

Kiffin nevers promises a recruit anything more than the opportunity to compete. And that is true, when they arrive they go straight in with the 1's. If it doesn't work out, then it's probably because he isn't good enough. The bus hasn't left the station though, and Richardson may stay and develop into a good football player for us yet.


I guess LK recruited you that would be why you know what he tells "all recruits".

Bottom line as stated before, NuKeese was touted as a HUGE recruiting coup by LK and staff against Florida. If he leaves, it’s bad for UT recruiting. Don’t blame us for negatively "spinning" this story, its negative all the way around. And if the bus hasnt left the station, then there is still a chance to get a fill-up in Pahokee.
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Different offense, coaches who didn't know your name until about 2 weeks before signing day, and a whole different scenario at ut.

His family wanted him to go to UF...his coaches took time to guide him through the recruiting process and encouraged him to go to UF...and Meyer developed a long term relationship with him to get him to UF. He rejected their help. If this all blows up in his face, he has NO ONE to blame but himself.


Much of this is factually inaccurate. Eddie Gran recruited Richardson and they had developed a relationship more than two weeks before signing day. Also, on Nu'Keese's visit, his aunts came with him and they were sold on our program as much as he was. If anything, they pushed him to go where he felt comfortable and that was here.

Kiffin nevers promises a recruit anything more than the opportunity to compete. And that is true, when they arrive they go straight in with the 1's. If it doesn't work out, then it's probably because he isn't good enough. The bus hasn't left the station though, and Richardson may stay and develop into a good football player for us yet.


LOL...Yet MORE backstroking by you and your butt buddy stjerkoff407? You two worms really need to go somewhere else. This board is for invertebrates only.
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What comes around..goes around. Kiffin is a punk and a liar and you dont have success with those two attributes. NR was too young and naive to see that what he was being asked to do by Kiffin was a clear indication of his (Kiffins) deceitfulness. Mark my words..before Kiffin is through he will have UT on probation or worse.


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Kiffin nevers promises a recruit anything more than the opportunity to compete.


And you know this because lamie takes you to visit recruits with him? I am guessing that your eyes are brown because you are totally full of ****, you farking little vol troll.

You have no idea how the recruiting game is played. Stick to topics you understand. Like dating your cousins or animal husbandry...


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Originally posted by GRBman:
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Originally posted by playnefolk:
Perhaps when Lame started urging Newkeys to lie to other coaches, telling him how great and hilarious it is to be a liar, he should have suspected something.

Oh well. Now he has learned an important lesson about trusting people like Lame who have no moral character. Parents-- take note of what happens to young men who put their trust in Lame.


This is so very true...

Nu'Keese leaving Tennessee and telling the world what happened will be devastating to Kiffin's recruiting...


Interesting to hear the Gator spin on Nu'Keese. I imagine that what is going on is that he is homesick and, despite his obvious talent, earning playing time is difficult for frehsmen. Kiffin is playing numerous freshmen. Problem for Nu'Keese is that he is somewhat undersized. If he leaves, that's too bad, but it won't be because of Kiffin's lies or whatever other crap you guys are spewing, it will be because he wasn't either talented enough to make it happen or patient enough to get better and get on the field.


So, when he was arguing with one of your assistants during the game it was because he is homesick? Get real. I know it goes without saying, but you really are a tool.

Although you might be interested to know that I have a dog that sings the Gator fight song after we beat y'all every year. The last time I showed a vol fan this, he asked me what he does when the vols win? I told him I didn't know because he is only 5 years old.
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no, no, no....not a knock on Bethune or FAMU as schools.....the recognition....those two schools would be the best alternatives closer to home for NewKeys to go to and not sit out a year....

the lack of pub is what would get him the gas pumping job.....
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Nu keese can leave if he wants, its obvious that UT doesn't need him, as he has not been of much significance in any UT game.

What's obvious is that UT lied to him that they did need him--and now you say they don't. Nice school--nice coach--nice losing program...THAT is the Tennessee Volunteers.


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Bleeds, earlier this year, NuKeys was the man. You and your Vol bretheren were spouting off how you stole him from UF and how he was going to see significant playing time this year.

I see how you are now a total 180 on this now. Typical Vol fans.


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...Yet MORE backstroking by you and your butt buddy stjerkoff407? You two worms really need to go somewhere else. This board is for invertebrates only.


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Nu keese can leave if he wants, its obvious that UT doesn't need him, as he has not been of much significance in any UT game.

Nope, UT achieved mediocrity (4/4) without him.
He has a 9.6 ypr average for receptions and 9.7 ypc rushing. Without him, do you think you'll be bowl eligible???


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Nu keese can leave if he wants, its obvious that UT doesn't need him, as he has not been of much significance in any UT game.


You are another one that was spouting off how you stole him from UF. All of you are idiots.


Exactly!!! The only answer these Tennasissy Tools can get right in their Special Ed. classes is, "what letter follows C in the alphabet?".
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the indications are that he feels he was deceived by Kiffen, something many on this board speculated about as early as February to which numerous Vol poster defended Kiffen


The only spin is fickle Vol fans willing to distance their program from their once prized recruit at the first bump in the road.
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...Yet MORE backstroking by you and your butt buddy stjerkoff407? You two worms really need to go somewhere else. This board is for invertebrates only.


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He wanted to get out of town, away from Florida, see the world. Crap gets old when you live there. Should have taken a two week vacation


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Bleeds no matter how you spin it. "We don't need him", blah, blah. The point is that you DO NOT get is that Lame punked this kid to get a shot at UF which will cause him more damage than Wins and Losses in the recruiting world. By the way if he does leave with this class, How many Sr. starters are going to be replaced?????????

And Kiffen not promising things to kids. I gues you miss alot of the comments that he makes at all the booster meetings. Maybe he and Mr. Ed (orgereon) are nippin to much from that kool aid (bourbon) bottle.
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Bleeds no matter how you spin it. "We don't need him", blah, blah. The point is that you DO NOT get is that Lame punked this kid to get a shot at UF which will cause him more damage than Wins and Losses in the recruiting world. By the way if he does leave with this class, How many Sr. starters are going to be replaced?????????

And Kiffen not promising things to kids. I gues you miss alot of the comments that he makes at all the booster meetings. Maybe he and Mr. Ed (orgereon) are nippin to much from that kool aid (bourbon) bottle.
He lied to the Kid. He made the Kid lie to the media, used his coach now you kick the kid to the curb.
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