i'm just going back to 06 - 08! UF has had impact freshman play a major role on the team! Percy, Tebow, Haden, Wright, Ja. Jenkens, Maurkice Pouncey, Jeff Demps, Brandon James and more! Seems like this yr there is no room for most of the freshman to get major playing time. Bostic and Je. Jenkins played alot in the first two games plus others playing on special teams. But no one has really had enough playing time to call them major contibuters on the team! I know there was talk about Nixon possibly starting last week. Does anybody think a freshman will move up the depth charts this year?

we are a very veteran club this year. When Meyer took over a lot of the Zook screwballs were kicked off or left, and then after our '06 championship the cupboard was kind of empty, therefore more opportunities for the freshmen. We just don't need it this year at any position other than wideout....and i'm surprised we haven't at least played the redshirt freshmen more.

Thats a thing to be thankful for.

I guess that shows that Meyer's previous recruiting classes have worked. If we've recruited studs and have them in place, it should be harder for younger studs to take their place.

To me it's a good problem to have and proves we're just re-loading.

I think this is a testament to how well Meyer has been recruiting. The most obvious place to have an impact player was WR, and the one WR who had a chance of making that impact got injured before the season started.

We have a bunch of sophs making plays...which isn't a bad thing.

06-08 recruting classes is probably the best 3 year run of recruiting in UF history! Just wanted to read if anybody tought a True Freshman would step up this yr! Debose did probably have the best chance! So far i believe Bostic has been the best freshman on the team this year and probably for years to come!

Omar Hunter is making a move the last few weeks.

Omar Hunter is a second year player (redshirt freshman).

Gillislee has played very well in the limited action he has seen, but he is far from "impact" this year.

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Originally posted by bmurphy95:
Omar Hunter is a second year player (redshirt freshman).

Still a freshman. OP didn't qualify a true/rs frosh.

Returning 19 starters makes it challenging for true freshmen to be major contributors.

Impact freshman = problem position or unnatural talent.

Yeah, no impact freshman so far, but Bostic has seen a lot of snaps for a defense that returned their whole 2-deep.

Andre Debose was supposed to fill that role.

yep the only spots we really had a hole in that a true freshman could jump in at were WR and TE and then Debose got injured and Parks never got over the injury setback. now that tackle has thinned a bit with Patchan going down Nixon's got a shot as a back up. but if the only realistic place a true freshman can make an impact is as a backup then that usually means you're team is in great shape.

Got to wonder if NewKeys didn't buy what Kiffin was selling whether he would have seen the field. Before anyone jumps on how if he's not seeing the field in Knoxville then he wouldn't here, that's not necessarily true due to the differences in offenses. I understood why Kiffin would try to take him away from us but never got why he thought a coach with a languishing QB corp and non-existent track record for using a waterbug WR like him would actually use him properly. It's not out of the realm of possibility at all that NewKeys would be getting touches. He might have adjusted better to college life without all that crazy attention from switching on signing day and then Kiffin drawing the ire of a lot of people over the accusations about his recruitment. he would have had a friend and former teammate Janoris Jenkins here to lean on too.

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Originally posted by Gatorpoet:
"Zook screwballs"

I was going to say something more but I won't. It just kind of irks me when someone talks crap about Gators regards of who their coach was. Dallas baker, Bubba Caldwell, and Chris Leak...Were all "Zook screwballs."

Debose would have started at WR.

Other than that, it's not a bad thing when your team has tons of 3 year-starters on it. It's called having an experienced ball club that has been through the good times and the bad times before.

One thing most analysts don't consider in the potential Bama-UF showdown in the SECCG is that our guys have much more big-game experience than Bama....I think that will be a huge advantage for us.

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Originally posted by Ibankin:

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Originally posted by Gatorpoet:
"Zook screwballs"

I was going to say something more but I won't. It just kind of irks me when someone talks crap about Gators regards of who their coach was. Dallas baker, Bubba Caldwell, and Chris Leak...Were all "Zook screwballs."

You need to take a deep breath and re-read his statement.

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Originally posted by kcgator:
You need to take a deep breath and re-read his statement.

Ibankin does have a point.

Gatorpoet didn't say "alot of Zook's players were screwballs"; meaning some were good and some bad, and that the bad ones left the program.

He said "alot of Zook's screwballs were kicked off or left"; implying that they were all screwballs and that only some of them left the team; meaning the rest of the screwballs stayed on the team.

Poet could have worded it better so that it doesn't accidentally imply what it does.

Not a big deal to me since we're all Gators on this board. Just pointing that out.

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Poet could have worded it better so that it doesn't accidentally imply what it does.

Poet's handle is one of the most misleading on the board. He has an accountant's soul and he writes poorly.

Gillislee and Dubose will be fun to watch next year. I like that they have been able to watch how starters prepare and practice. Also, just what is top priority for them...ball security!

Enjoy the ride this year...next year will be fun, but developmental... in a good way I think!

We are dangerously thin at impact freshman

Gillislee and Finley have played quite well on special teams

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Originally posted by midfield:

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Originally posted by kcgator:
You need to take a deep breath and re-read his statement.

Ibankin does have a point.

Gatorpoet didn't say "alot of Zook's players were screwballs"; meaning some were good and some bad, and that the bad ones left the program.

He said "alot of Zook's screwballs were kicked off or left"; implying that they were all screwballs and that only some of them left the team; meaning the rest of the screwballs stayed on the team.

Poet could have worded it better so that it doesn't accidentally imply what it does.

Not a big deal to me since we're all Gators on this board. Just pointing that out.

Maybe you should get your reading comprehension in check before jumping on another poster. He said "alot of Zook's screwballs left or were kicked off the team" meaning the most of the bad apples from Zook were kicked off or left. He didn't say all of them were screwballs. It's not his fault you misinterpreted his words. What he said is true and pretty spot on. Zook had some screwballs that were definitely led by a screwball who apparently thought is was a good idea to start a fight with a frat at UF...yeah good leadership. Some left and some didn't and if you look at the arrest rate during Meyer's tenure here the vast majority of them were Zook recruits and not his own which further defends his statement that Zook had a lot of screwballs.

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Originally posted by midfield:

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Originally posted by kcgator:
You need to take a deep breath and re-read his statement.

Ibankin does have a point.

Gatorpoet didn't say "alot of Zook's players were screwballs"; meaning some were good and some bad, and that the bad ones left the program.

He said "alot of Zook's screwballs were kicked off or left"; implying that they were all screwballs and that only some of them left the team; meaning the rest of the screwballs stayed on the team.

Poet could have worded it better so that it doesn't accidentally imply what it does.

Not a big deal to me since we're all Gators on this board. Just pointing that out.

Maybe you should get your reading comprehension in check before jumping on another poster. He said "alot of Zook's screwballs left or were kicked off the team" meaning the most of the bad apples from Zook were kicked off or left. He didn't say all of them were screwballs. It's not his fault you misinterpreted his words. What he said is true and pretty spot on. Zook had some screwballs that were definitely led by a screwball who apparently thought is was a good idea to start a fight with a frat at UF...yeah good leadership. Some left and some didn't and if you look at the arrest rate during Meyer's tenure here the vast majority of them were Zook recruits and not his own which further defends his statement that Zook had a lot of screwballs.

That was the one good thing zook did here.

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Originally posted by -THE DUDE-:

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Originally posted by midfield:

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Originally posted by kcgator:
You need to take a deep breath and re-read his statement.

Ibankin does have a point.

Gatorpoet didn't say "alot of Zook's players were screwballs"; meaning some were good and some bad, and that the bad ones left the program.

He said "alot of Zook's screwballs were kicked off or left"; implying that they were all screwballs and that only some of them left the team; meaning the rest of the screwballs stayed on the team.

Poet could have worded it better so that it doesn't accidentally imply what it does.

Not a big deal to me since we're all Gators on this board. Just pointing that out.

Maybe you should get your reading comprehension in check before jumping on another poster. He said "alot of Zook's screwballs left or were kicked off the team" meaning the most of the bad apples from Zook were kicked off or left. He didn't say all of them were screwballs. It's not his fault you misinterpreted his words. What he said is true and pretty spot on. Zook had some screwballs that were definitely led by a screwball who apparently thought is was a good idea to start a fight with a frat at UF...yeah good leadership. Some left and some didn't and if you look at the arrest rate during Meyer's tenure here the vast majority of them were Zook recruits and not his own which further defends his statement that Zook had a lot of screwballs.

If you had started off and said, "I disagreee, and this is how..." then we can converse intellectually.

To begin by throwing an insult and saying I am in need of reading comprehension clearly demonstrates your retaliatory social tendencies by yourself jumping on another poster, throwing out a derogatory statement, and dragging the post off on a tangent.

"alot of Zook's screwballs left" means Zook's players were screwballs and alot of them left.

Your interpretation was sprinkled with details and wording that you introduced into the discussion, not what Poet described. You read into it what you wanted to see, not what was actually written. Did someone say something about needing reading comprehension?

It could be massaged into being interpreted in a different way, but you didn't approach the conversation like that.

Furthermore, there's no need to go into a diatribe about who did what under Zook. I was not arguing the point of what they did, only the misleading accidental wording of that statement.

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Originally posted by Ibankin:

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Originally posted by Gatorpoet:
"Zook screwballs"

I was going to say something more but I won't. It just kind of irks me when someone talks crap about Gators regards of who their coach was. Dallas baker, Bubba Caldwell, and Chris Leak...Were all "Zook screwballs."

Actually what screwballs is referring to is the heavy attrition on Zook's recruiting classes. Zook was a overrated recruiter that was very unbalanced. He would get some top players and fill the rest of the class with sorry players that were no longer with the program 2 years later.

This plus Meyer's first class caused the extreme experience inbalance of the 2007 team.