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If after a week they still look lost on offense and nobody but Harvin (Heisman candidate) can be called a playmaker, with all that talent, then I say scrap it, except for maybe it being a part of the two-minute drill.

I know it's early, yet, but most of these guys have also been around for one or two seasons as well.

Plus, I don't think those late game lapses on O was entirely the offense's fault. The D has some blame there.
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I think this provides a benefit that the team needs - the ability to move the ball quickly. Last year our "2 minute" offense was abysmal. A big part of that was our dependence on setup and then looking to the sidelines for changes in the play. That's a problem with coaching. What the no huddle means is they are trusting Tebow to change the play himself - unless it means we just go to the line then look to the sidelines. If not that is great for us and the ability to move the ball. I don't really love the use of the no huddle consistently other than that. Goes deeper than our players' ability to pick it up. We have such a potent offense, I'd rather we take our time any time OTHER than the two minute. Our defense often needed the rest last year...no matter how much better we are this year, I don't see that changing. Throwing it in once in a while to keep defenses off balance or to deliver a quick knockout blow is one thing - a dependence on it could hurt our defense over the course of a game.


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I think it will prove to be very useful in certain games or situations. I'm sure they won't be running it all the time since there's really no need for it. It makes sense for Meyer to implement it now rather than midseason.



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I think it will prove to be very useful in certain games or situations. I'm sure they won't be running it all the time since there's really no need for it. It makes sense for Meyer to implement it now rather than midseason.

Definitely, I think it can offer a great change of pace during a game if needed. There were times during games (LSU and UGA in particular) that our offense sputtered a little bit once the defense got into a rhythm. I think the no huddle can change the dynamic of the offense and make the opposing defense prepare for another phase of attack.


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I think the coaches use the no huddle for a number of reasons, however it does add focus and intensity to the players on both sides of the ball.

In basketball, if the coach wants to increase the player intensity, they go to a man to man defense...the players just have to lock and load.

From the point of having to defense the no huddle, that does add practice preparation and careful player selection to the game. Our guys need to recognize mis matches and audible to exploit them.

Now the trick...getting all 11 on the same level of intensity, focus, knowledge of the plays and ability to be flexible on the spur of the moment.

I think Meyer working on it now is good. The players are all challenged by it and that raises their focus. When he goes back to the huddle and player substitution, it will feel quite relaxed. Then he will go no huddle again and it won't be brand new.

All in all he's looking for and preparing for an edge that only comes with an early enough exposure to this system.

Mullen still needs to not get too fancy in critical times of clock management or 2 min drills. Stick to what we are great at and push that down their throats.

ie: NO DIRECT SNAPS TO K. MOORE WHEN HE HAS NEVER DONE THAT! usa
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Further evidence of the coaches knowing our weaknesses.

Look to Auburn, LSU, and Michigan games where the offense looked lost and confused trying to run the two minute offense and ultimately failed. Plenty of people said to me "well the ball was in Tebow's hands to end the game and he had a shot to do it, but didn't" and to be fair, there is some truth to that. Our team, for all its talent and ability to score quickly became too focused and one-dimensional with the game on the line.

I'd rather our offense struggle now and win those games next season rather than look confused to finish the game and lose. Not to mention, it also keeps the defense on their toes and forces them to make quick adjustments themselves.
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Mullen still needs to not get too fancy in critical times of clock management or 2 min drills. Stick to what we are great at and push that down their throats
ie: NO DIRECT SNAPS TO K. MOORE WHEN HE HAS NEVER DONE THAT

Whoever said that is 100% accurate. This is it in a nutshell. Our hurryup offense last year was done in by horrendous game management and poor play sequencing. Mullen (and Meyer) had no idea how to use change of pace last year and trying to fool other teams by having players do something they are not good at is not smart.
All we hear about is speed, yet our losses against teams of equal talent are b/c of fundamental play and game management. Blocking and tackling actually matter when you have an equal opponent.
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I think it will prove to be very useful in certain games or situations. I'm sure they won't be running it all the time since there's really no need for it. It makes sense for Meyer to implement it now rather than midseason.


The spring is definitely the time to try new things and add plays to the playbook, but I think what Meyer wants to do is add plays run by the offense per game. Even though he won a national championship with all the short-lived game-shortening rules, he also came to realize that the odds for scoring improve with number of plays the offense runs, and that may be more the motivational factor than change of pace or keeping the defense from changing personnel.
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Our defense often needed the rest last year..


And that happened because too often they couldn't stop the other guys, and got worn down by long drives.

If that still happens, then if our offense goes 3-and-out ourselves on regular-time or no-huddle-time, the 30 seconds of extra rest that the defense would get from regular-time makes no difference whatsoever in the big picture.

But if our offense makes a first down ... then we can absolutely wear THEIR defense down in a hurry, on their heels backing up in large chunks, using our playmakers in different formations without making any offensive substitutions.

CI and Hernandez in tight for a seven man line, move 'em out for 5-wideouts, and either way the defense is stuck with the personnel they had ???

Very very very frightening.

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