Hardly ace....he's been making money for awhile now....he isn't living off this year's paycheck. If you think he is, well ace....I guess that's the difference between you and I. Chump change.

$30K is $30K. I don't think anyone is saying that he can't afford to pay it but it is a lot for a fine. Especially when you compare it to other fines that have been imposed in the NFL. I doubt that if you walked up to Meyer and asked him for $30k he would just hand it over to you because it is pocket change or because of how much he has in the bank.

A couple days pay for Urban is no big deal........His QB and team knowing he has their back....Priceless!!!
Maybe the result of this will be the refs will keep a closer eye on Tebow and the shots he takes. That would be worth the $30,000.

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Originally posted by T REX:
Hardly ace....he's been making money for awhile now....he isn't living off this year's paycheck. If you think he is, well ace....I guess that's the difference between you and I. Chump change.

i concur, t-rex. wealth is exponential. one human being only needs so much to live on. 3.5 million a year? give me a break. 30k is nothing. sure its an inconvenience, but easily made up in the long run. i highly doubt that meyer has a mortgage to pay. i also bet he has cars already paid for and the college funds are already set in full (surely if any of his kids attend florida they have nothing to worry about)

also, can people please stop playing the "freedom of speech" card. that is ridiculous. freedom of speech does not allow you to say things with impunity. you still have to answer for what you say. certainly you dont walk into work in the morning and say f you to your boss. if you have a job you are paid for that job. your boss has every right to punish or fire you for not obeying the rules of the job that you signed a contract for when you got that job.

meyer should have been smarter. the correct answer was: i have sent the tape to the sec for review, next question.

This isn't about the money. It's a mater of principle. That little puke Kiffeeen has created the problem, and Meyer gets hit for a measured response. If I were Meyer I would be ready to chew nails. Lane Kiffin is a disease. I truly hope he takes down Tennessee, and takes them down hard.

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Originally posted by gator1946:
This isn't about the money. It's a mater of principle.

Yeah, the principle of writing a 30K check pretty much sucks. Yes, even for Meyer.

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Originally posted by zzgator:
Clearly, Kiffin is a cancer.

Al Davis knew it...and now we know it.

The size of the fine is a bit surprising. The SEC does not impose a lot of fines on coaches or schools, so there isn't a whole lot to measure the $30K against.

The SEC fined Phil Fulmer $10K back in 2004 for refusing to attend SEC Media Days. In 2007, Texas Tech Coach Mike Leach was fined $10,000 and publicly reprimanded by the Big 12 Conference for comments he made about the officiating after the Red Raiders lost to Texas. The biggest fine levied by the SEC that I recall was a $50K fine against Kentucky for not preventing fans from rushing the field after UK beat top-ranked LSU in 2007 (it was UK's third violation of the rule in 12 months).

To me, $30K seems excessive for Meyer's rather minor comments, even if they did come after Slive's edict about not complaining about officials.

I don't care if the fine was $1.00. That's not the point.

Too bad for Vandy to get caught in the wake of all this. They are gonna get the
frustration-pummeling tomorrow.

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Originally posted by NCG8r:
The size of the fine is a bit surprising. The SEC does not impose a lot of fines on coaches or schools, so there isn't a whole lot to measure the $30K against.

The SEC fined Phil Fulmer $10K back in 2004 for refusing to attend SEC Media Days. In 2007, Texas Tech Coach Mike Leach was fined $10,000 and publicly reprimanded by the Big 12 Conference for comments he made about the officiating after the Red Raiders lost to Texas. The biggest fine levied by the SEC that I recall was a $50K fine against Kentucky for not preventing fans from rushing the field after UK beat top-ranked LSU in 2007 (it was UK's third violation of the rule in 12 months).

To me, $30K seems excessive for Meyer's rather minor comments, even if they did come after Slive's edict about not complaining about officials.

I seriously think it was more about setting precedent. Urban can afford it more easily than some other coaches who might be tempted to run their traps.

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Originally posted by Gatorstew:

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Originally posted by gator1946:
This isn't about the money. It's a mater of principle.

Yeah, the principle of writing a 30K check pretty much sucks. Yes, even for Meyer.

Look at it this way, after taxes it's really only $15-$18k. Plus, it is going to that scholarship and I would say it qualifies as a business expense, I bet he could even write it off.

A bit surprised UM commented as he did on the non-call. He is normally a bit more calculated in his actions. Or maybe it was his intent? Maybe a master plan is now in place. Whoever the first idiot (Lame Kiffin) to follow with disparaging comments about officials is really going to get hammered by the league.

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Originally posted by bellce0:
A bit surprised UM commented as he did on the non-call. He is normally a bit more calculated in his actions. Or maybe it was his intent? Maybe a master plan is now in place. Whoever the first idiot (Lame Kiffin) to follow with disparaging comments about officials is really going to get hammered by the league.

Urban is usually WAY more calculating in his actions and comments. And his response to the fine was WAY too tame for this not to have been on purpose. Maybe it was a mistake, but I don't think so. Mike Slive drew the line in the sand and Urban stepped over it, purposefully in my opinion.

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Originally posted by jeblaze02:
Poor Coach Meyer!!! Now if the SEC had the guts they would do another thing that is right....SUSPEND Spikes. They give Meyer a stupid fine for saying something insulting about officials and being negative to the almighty SEC, but they have no rule to suspend a player who blatantly assaults another player with intent to harm. The SEC and Slive are jokes...to say the least. I am still hoping the NCAA steps in and does the right thing...SUSPEND Spikes for the rest of the year!!!!!

NO - THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. We must suspend Brandon for the rest of the year AND inform the NFL that he's not eligible for the draft. Let him stay at UF in purgatory!!

Oh, and by the way, let the SEC come after my brother-in-law who played DT at UGA 30 years ago and has told me that he used to do all sorts of stuff in line play.

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Oh, and by the way, let the SEC come after my brother-in-law who played DT at UGA 30 years ago and has told me that he used to do all sorts of stuff in line play.

Of course he did - UGA - everyone knows they're dirty.

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Oh, and by the way, let the SEC come after my brother-in-law who played DT at UGA 30 years ago and has told me that he used to do all sorts of stuff in line play.

So who didn't stand up in that wedding and object to the union?

I posted this in an earlier thread. I think Slive managed this situation poorly. Here's the earlier post.

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If the rule is already there (no criticizing officials), do you need to say, "and if you break it, we're really going to enforce it now."

I think this is the mistake adults (authorities) make with children (subordinates). If you declare your ultimatum, you give the power to the subordinate and lose it yourself. If you set the rule without an ultimatum, you get to use your own discretion. If I'm the commissioner, I would have restated the rule and not declared that the "next one who acts up" is gonna get it. I agree that he had to do something, but IMO he was a little off and now will be criticized if others don't agree with how he did/didn't "stick to his guns."

I would have been surprised if Meyer didn't get fined. I think Meyer was less calculating than he normally is and wonder if it's because he is feeling more relaxed and at home in Gainesville than he ever has in previous places.

Either way, it is a raw deal. Meyer is paying mostly for the antics of others (most notably Lamewad) and to those not paying close attention, UF and Urban come out looking like they've done wrong - when they haven't.

I hope that this fuel him and doesn't discourage him from living free and open. I don't think that it is better to live with your guard always up and I hope he doesn't get pushed into that. After all, he's a person, not just a coach.

We're behind ya Urbs!!

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Originally posted by SavannahGator:


Oh, and by the way, let the SEC come after my brother-in-law who played DT at UGA 30 years ago and has told me that he used to do all sorts of stuff in line play.

So who didn't stand up in that wedding and object to the union?

Excellent point!

Yeah, the SEC just wants to show its muscle in a big way. The fine is ridiculous. $30,000? C'mon!! Hey the idea of everyone coming into the game donating 50cent towards Meyers fine sounds like a great idea. Wonder if it will happen. Can't wait until they take on Kiffin.

I sure as hell hope Gator Boosters, Inc. takes care of this for Coach. No way he should have to write that check! Come on J.J., cough it up!

sounds like the SEC want to silence all negitive commits like the white house wants to silence Fox News. What is this free speech thing all about anyway. I'd like to hit the white house with 30 large every time they had a negitive commit.

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I seriously think it was more about setting precedent. Urban can afford it more easily than some other coaches who might be tempted to run their traps.

Yeah, he set a precedent at Urban's expense. He backed himself into a corner so that he had to do it. Nonetheless this is a mater of image not precedent. I really don't understand how so many of you can take this lightly. What we think is not what the national press will think.

I am livid that this was managed in such a way that a coach that plays it straight is made an example, and open to more attack from the press freaks. They will have a field day.

Bernie had better be on the phone to whats his face and let him know that the next time that Jack Ass pops off the fine is so high it changes his standard of living.

I'm ok with this (of course i'm not the one that has to pay it but I also don't get a massive paycheck like Urb does). Meyer probably knew this was coming, and he's probably happy to take some heat off Spikes. I think it was a smart move by Slive to hand down a punishment. Hopefully it shuts the conspiratorial cry babies (Kiffen) up. Can't wait till Kiffen mouths off again. Should be fun.

Hey, sBranden200 Newbie - no politics on this site...there are others for that!

I agree. I think UM did this to show the team he has their back, call out officials to protect his players, and to draw the measuring stick that is going to give Kiffy the next big smack.

And most of all to try and take the spotlight off the team and on him. If anything UF is a dangerous team right now. They have the tools, the D, and the coaching. Looks as if they are now just beginning to peak and break out. UM does this year after year. Get em to a point late in the season to break out.

I think you'll see a focused team tommorrow and one that will play with a controlled rage. And from then out play with a chip on their shoulder like they did last year. UM always has a plan and know how to adapt to changing situation. He has really gotten coll and collected.

Don't worry fellow Gators. As they have been there all along. All the haters and suck @$$ media are back at it like '96, '06, and most of last year. They may have just given the Gators what they needed to get over the hump and snatch another NC!

GO GATORS!

Does anyone really think this action against Meyer is what it seems? Follow the white rabbit if you will and see if any of this makes sense...

You have three coaches in the league who have recently tried to test the limits of the authority and show no respect to the established ideals of the league. While criticism is common after a loss, to start attacking the credibility of the league is something that should never ever happen. The power players of the SEC, like Meyer, Spurrier, Saban, Miles...they all know that if you have a problem you handle it in house first. Since Kiffin threw the first shot out there, he got the fresh SEC coaches Mullen and Petrino to follow suit and the national media started fanning the flames. It went from having public arguments among coaches to blasting officials to starting conspiracies. Slive had to take action and I'm sure the respected coaches of the league knew it too.

Now, after the Georgia game, there really was no different behavior out of Richt or Meyer discussing the game afterward. There was not controversial call or ending and the Spikes incident didn't really make press until it graced Youtube. Once attention was drawn to both Spikes and Meyer's comments, something had to happen. If anyone wants to critique Meyer, fine. Just don't expect anyone to give you credibility if you try to call him careless or unstrategic. This is the same coach that could have reacted a million different ways after UGA's field rush in '07. Meyer just went along and dished it out in '08 and the UF/UGA rivalry grew from it. Ask yourself, what kind of whining would you have heard out of Kiffin had it happened to UT?

I'm sure Slive had personal dealings with the acceptance of the original 1/2 game suspension of Spikes. Slive knows this conference is big business/money and knows that the coaches help keep it that way. Just BCS money alone, having Meyer and Miles and Saban brings a lot to the table. With the new fine/suspension policy in place, Slive I'm sure was trying his hardest to handle things respectfully, even when he was dealing with someone as worthless as Kiffin. With all the attention now being drawn to Meyer's comments which in previous years would not have merited any reprimand, Slive probably looked at this from every angle and consulted with Meyer.

Meyer also knew this would restore some credibility and authority to the league office, and I wouldn't be suprised if he knew too well...a certain coach would not be able to resist testing the boundaries. Kiffin played his hand early, and he's about to lose. Now, with Meyer getting hit with a $30K fine for something very, very mild...the line is drawn. What would be next? If you go after the credibility of the league, $50K, or $100K? Meyer is the league's golden boy and if he can get fined for something this petty, Kiffin better watch out.

Kiffin has played his hand already this season and just doesn't know when to quit. Now that the league has shown that the threats are not empty, Meyer fell on his sword, or at the very least his wallet. The one person Kiffin can't seem to get out of his head is Urban, and can't avoid any opportunity to make statements about him or UF. The brilliant Vol faithful, like their head coach, have no clue about what really has taken place. Meyer and Slive just paid $30,000 for the rope that Lane Kiffin will eventually hang himself with.

And I know Urb doesn't look this far ahead, but consider if you will, UT plays at Auburn after Florida next year. After UF beats UT next year, will Kiffy walk into a suspension against Auburn and set the Vols up for another 2-2, 0-2 SEC start?

Again Urban showed support for the players on his team and wasn't whinning about a win or loss!!! $30,000 is big but the support he showed for his team and their health was priceless!!!

Yes, but does he tip 10 or 15% or is it 20%?

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Originally posted by mtn2top:
I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC officials push Kiffin's buttons just a little bit in the next couple of games.

Are you saying that the officiating is, or will be, biased?
Isn't that what this whole d@mn controversy is about to begin with, the image of bias in the officiating?

Let's be realistic. You have a SEC coach that said in no uncertain terms that the officiating was crooked. Now you're in a situation where that coach can't say a word to those same officials without being penalized heavily. The refs are human. All I'm saying is that if the opportunity were to present itself to make a legitimate call and to tweak Kiffin a bit, I think they do it with no fear of reprisal and perhaps just a little bit of payback. Officiating is subjective.