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You really want to impress, move to the UK and try that with the Koran.

Hey Spur Dog,
They are looking for your expert opinion on the main board.


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My opinion is that you have dont have to offend an entire population of people to be funny, Mo!

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My opinion is that you have dont have to offend an entire population of people to be funny, Mo!

Agree with the above and it is offensive. Chris Hitchins, an aethist has major issues with religion. He is respectful when he argues his point.

The link from the main board is about the game this weekend.

Sorry. I'll check that out.

Larry David's HBO show is a pay cable show noted for its ridiculous sometimes off color humor.The wife of David's manager on the show swears like a sailor.This is all public knowledge so if you get upset by this type of humor simply don't watch the show.

Most of the comedy concert shows on HBO would have gotten people arrested not long ago.Apparently the catholics don't mind comedians talking about any kind of sexual perversion imaginable but a sight gag of the toilet splashing on a picture of Jesus is beyond the pale.

What's ironic about all this is that it will probably have more people signing up for HBO because of the brouhaha which is usually what happens.

Never liked Larry David and thought the few episodes I ever saw of Seinfeld were stupid beyond belief. See no reason to change my opinion.

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Never liked Larry David and thought the few episodes I ever saw of Seinfeld were stupid beyond belief. See no reason to change my opinion.

Seinfeld was the #1 show on TV for several years and is considered a classic by most people who obviously don't agree with you.

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Originally posted by ncargat1:
Never liked Larry David and thought the few episodes I ever saw of Seinfeld were stupid beyond belief. See no reason to change my opinion.

Seinfeld was the #1 show on TV for several years and is considered a classic by most people who obviously don't agree with you.

NC, I am with you. Although there are parts that are funny in Seinfeld, I never sought it out. Could live without it and actually would prefer not to have all the darn reruns on.

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Originally posted by OPGator:
Larry David's HBO show is a pay cable show noted for its ridiculous sometimes off color humor.The wife of David's manager on the show swears like a sailor.This is all public knowledge so if you get upset by this type of humor simply don't watch the show.

Most of the comedy concert shows on HBO would have gotten people arrested not long ago.Apparently the catholics don't mind comedians talking about any kind of sexual perversion imaginable but a sight gag of the toilet splashing on a picture of Jesus is beyond the pale.

What's ironic about all this is that it will probably have more people signing up for HBO because of the brouhaha which is usually what happens.

I do have HBO, but have never really gotten into that show. Too over the top. I probably would have been amused by that scene, though.

Overall, I am not too big of a fan of most comedies. I do like Entourage and Califorication (Showtime) though.

Seinfeld was amusing, but like others I never sought it out or made a point of watching it.

I am sure you would have been amused if he did the same to a picture of MLK? And I dont think it will help HBO at all. Just another example of why christians have become the only group that can be blatantly attacked and made fun of without repercussion. Maher spends half of his show doing it.

Spur,

Try wearing it as a badge of courage.

There is some logic that this thinking may lead you to the greatness you are seeking.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "greatness I am seeking", I just hate the double standards.

Seinfeld is about life. Almost every episode I could relate to. Great show!

Only watched one show of Curb- it was actually quite good. He was lamenting how he got so many numbers in his cell phone and he has no idea who they are. So he started dating this woman in a wheelchair and he put her name in his cell phone "Wendy Wheelchair." LOL good stuff. I do crap like that too.

I'm an atheist but I generally respect people's beliefs. What I dont respect is the religious right or the religious left for that matter. Though the latter is somewhat less vocal.

As for sitcom's, make sure you guys watch Modern Family. Its hilarious. (tonight at 9)

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Originally posted by OPGator:
Seinfeld was the #1 show on TV for several years and is considered a classic by most people who obviously don't agree with you.

OP, never quarrel with someone over his or her taste in TV. I chose my words carefully, not calling the show good or bad, but saying "I" thought it was stupid. I am happily in the minority opinion often and it is no different here.

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Originally posted by spurdog:
I am sure you would have been amused if he did the same to a picture of MLK? And I dont think it will help HBO at all. Just another example of why christians have become the only group that can be blatantly attacked and made fun of without repercussion. Maher spends half of his show doing it.

I wouldn't have found the peeing on the picture that amusing, that is in poor taste, but the people thinking Jesus was crying, that would have been amusing. Its over the top, but strangely plausible.

As to Mahre, I think he is over the top, but at times I can relate to what he is saying. I think many Christians seem to think they should get a special privilege of being immune from criticism. Many of us look at the likes of Tom Cruise and other Scientologists as freaks, and in my mind rightfully so. However, for those that are truly atheistic, why would Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc be viewed differently? To a non believer these appear to be completely concocted belief systems.

I am not trying to start a debate on the merits of religion, I am just saying look at it from the other side.

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I'm not sure what you mean by the "greatness I am seeking", I just hate the double standards.

I assumed you were a christian. I as I understand it, a christian attempts to conduct his (gender neutral for the sensitive out there) life in the manner taught by christ.

Or, are you just standing up for the downtrodden in the world?

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Originally posted by spurdog:
I am sure you would have been amused if he did the same to a picture of MLK? And I dont think it will help HBO at all. Just another example of why christians have become the only group that can be blatantly attacked and made fun of without repercussion. Maher spends half of his show doing it.

I wouldn't have found the peeing on the picture that amusing, that is in poor taste, but the people thinking Jesus was crying, that would have been amusing. Its over the top, but strangely plausible.

As to Mahre, I think he is over the top, but at times I can relate to what he is saying. I think many Christians seem to think they should get a special privilege of being immune from criticism. Many of us look at the likes of Tom Cruise and other Scientologists as freaks, and in my mind rightfully so. However, for those that are truly atheistic, why would Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc be viewed differently? To a non believer these appear to be completely concocted belief systems.

I am not trying to start a debate on the merits of religion, I am just saying look at it from the other side.

Detroit and Shadow I think said they are more or less atheists.It would be interesting to hear their opinions.

I have no problem with those who don't think it's funny but in the context of a comedy sitcom I don't think they were trying to insult christians.I'm guessing the majority of the people who watch the show and HBO are christians.

Monty Python's movie The Life of Brian was thought to be sacrilegious and was banned in some cities which had the opposite effect nationwide as it was probably their highest grossing film.

I think the catholics who took exception to this show and made a national news story out of it would have probably been better served to just tell their people that they didn't recommend watching it when it played again and left it at that.

LOVE Life of Brian!

You have to haggle!!

Roman Catholics or catholics (universal believers) can have an opinion on anything they wish. How dumb or smart that opinion is another matter.

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Originally posted by spurdog:
I am sure you would have been amused if he did the same to a picture of MLK? And I dont think it will help HBO at all. Just another example of why christians have become the only group that can be blatantly attacked and made fun of without repercussion. Maher spends half of his show doing it.

I wouldn't have found the peeing on the picture that amusing, that is in poor taste, but the people thinking Jesus was crying, that would have been amusing. Its over the top, but strangely plausible.

As to Mahre, I think he is over the top, but at times I can relate to what he is saying. I think many Christians seem to think they should get a special privilege of being immune from criticism. Many of us look at the likes of Tom Cruise and other Scientologists as freaks, and in my mind rightfully so. However, for those that are truly atheistic, why would Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc be viewed differently? To a non believer these appear to be completely concocted belief systems.

I am not trying to start a debate on the merits of religion, I am just saying look at it from the other side.

Detroit and Shadow I think said they are more or less atheists.It would be interesting to hear their opinions.

I have no problem with those who don't think it's funny but in the context of a comedy sitcom I don't think they were trying to insult christians.I'm guessing the majority of the people who watch the show and HBO are christians.

Monty Python's movie The Life of Brian was thought to be sacrilegious and was banned in some cities which had the opposite effect nationwide as it was probably their highest grossing film.

I think the catholics who took exception to this show and made a national news story out of it would have probably been better served to just tell their people that they didn't recommend watching it when it played again and left it at that.

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I try to look at this from both sides but I dont see much of the other side being blasted constantly from those in positions like Maher or Larry and many of the others. You can certainly have a differing opinion and even criticize the opinions of others but they take it way farther than that..way farther. The intent much more malicious.

It is amazing how much the media will allow on TV these days. Anything of the Christian belief system is up for ridicule. Sign of the times.

Arent they attacking their beloved President? Isnt he a christian? Do they really think it was a good idea to vote for a man that believes in the fairy tale of a God?

According to Nielsen figures, the average audience for Seinfeld during it's run was 15 to 20% of US households.

That leaves lots of room for people who didn't watch or like the show, possibly even a majority of Americans.

Media hypes itself so much that the actual numbers are often lost in translation. The average top ten broadcast prime time program these days averages about 17 million viewers (US population is over 300 million). Cable viewing is much lower. Top ten cable programs average about 5 million viewers.

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According to Nielsen figures, the average audience for Seinfeld during it's run was 15 to 20% of US households.

That leaves lots of room for people who didn't watch or like the show, possibly even a majority of Americans.

Media hypes itself so much that the actual numbers are often lost in translation. The average top ten broadcast prime time program these days averages about 17 million viewers (US population is over 300 million). Cable viewing is much lower. Top ten cable programs average about 5 million viewers.

That doesn't change the fact that Seinfeld was the #1 TV show in the country for years just like Milton Berle was #1 back in the 50's and Seinfeld and Larry David and the cast regulars became very rich from making the show.

You're right that with so many cable shows and broadcast TV that being #1 doesn't mean what it once did but there are still probably thousands of people who have favorite Seinfeld episode lists for every person who didn't like the show.

Curb your Enthusiasm is an acquired taste and nowhere near as good as Seinfeld in my opinion but he does some things that are pretty funny occasionally as well as being R-rated at times doing stuff you won't see on non pay TV.

They have V-chips now for people who don't want their kids watching a lot of programs which is fine and parents should get more involved in what their kids watch.Depending on the kid a lot of the TV violence they watch can turn into real life violence.

But it's possible to have personal censorship for your family without expecting everything you don't like to be censored nationally.It's not easy so parents have to be smarter and if you don't like Larry David or think his show is sacrilegious then simply don't watch it.