Can not help but laugh at the UN ending up with egg on its face again. After the IAEA tries to legitimize the Iranian madman and his quest for nuclear missiles (in direct opposition to the UN Security Council, by the way), the Iranians have told the toothless UN, thanks but no thanks.
For what it is worth, it is probably irrelevant anyway. Iran has some pretty smart folks over there and with the assistance of Russia, China, and N. Korea they are going to develop nuclear missiles whether we like it or not. Does not change the fact that even the most tin-horned of dictators can and will embarrass the UN.
If the UN is powerless in cases like this, exactly what is there purpose?
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NYT: Iran rejects UN-drafted nuclear deal By Yossi Melman, Haaretz Correspondent, News Agencies and Haaretz Service Tags: Iran, new york times
Iran has rejected a United Nations proposal to ship most of the country's uranium abroad for enrichment in an attempt to resolve the international standoff over its contentious nuclear program, the New York Times reported late Thursday.
The UN nuclear watchdog presented a draft deal to Iran last week to reduce the country's stockpile of low-enriched uranium, seen by the West as a nuclear weapons risk.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared on Thursday that his country was working with the West to resolve the nuclear standoff. Advertisement But a Western diplomat said Iran has rejected a U.S.-backed plan to export most of its enriched uranium, and wants instead to enrich to higher levels under the supervision of the United Nations - a plan that could speed up Tehran's ability to make a nuclear weapon.
The disconnect between the words of Ahmadinejad and Tehran's decision, as related by the diplomat, reflect the difficulties facing international negotiators trying to persuade Iran to give up enrichment - an activity that could be used to create fissile warhead material.
The United States and allied countries were seeking Iranian agreement to a draft plan proposed last week by International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei at talks grouping negotiators from Iran, the United States, Russia and France.
A Western diplomat familiar with the Iran offer suggested that the Islamic Republic had rejected the main thrust of the offer - shipping out most of its stockpile - and was instead proposing to further enrich it inside Iran under IAEA supervision.
Ahmadinejad insisted his country and the West were working more tightly together on nuclear cooperation than ever before.
A senior European Union official told Israeli officials last week that Israel is not privy to the details of the exchanges between Iran and the Western countries regarding its nuclear program.
"You do not understand the extent to which you are not in the picture. You do not know how much you do not know and what is happening in Iran," he said.
Accordingly, a number of senior Israeli officials backed the European official's statements by saying that the release of the draft of an agreement with Iran caught Israel by surprise.
However, a senior official in the U.S. administration told Haaretz last Thursday that from the minute the talks began on a deal over the uranium enrichment program of Iran, Israel was updated on every detail by the United States, and was given detailed reports on the talks with the Iranians and the ongoing dialogue on a nearly daily basis.
The Prime Minister's Bureau refused to comment.
Defense Minister Ehud Barak spoke out last week against the draft agreement on Iran's nuclear program, under which most of its enriched uranium will be exported abroad for processing into a form usable in its research reactor.
"Iran received legitimization for enriching uranium for civilian purposes on its soil, contrary to the understanding that those negotiating with it have about its real plans - obtaining nuclear [weapons] capability," Barak said.
He acknowledged that the deal, if signed, would significantly reduce Iran's stock of enriched uranium, but said what is needed is a complete halt to its enrichment program.
"The talks [with Iran] must be of short, limited duration," he added. "The principle we are recommending to all the players is not, under any circumstances, to remove any option from the table."
Many details of the agreement have not yet been published, but the bits released to the public call for Iran to transfer about 1,200 kilograms of low-enriched uranium - about 75 percent of its known stock - to Russia. There, it will be enriched to a level of 20 percent and then transferred to France, where it will be processed into nuclear fuel and returned to Tehran for use in its research reactor, which makes medical isotopes. The entire process will take about 18 months.
This would leave Iran with only some 300 kilograms of low-enriched uranium, which is enough to make only about 6 kilograms of bomb-grade uranium. Since a nuclear weapon requires 25 to 30 kilograms of high-enriched uranium, that means Iran would lack the means to produce a bomb in the next year or so whatever its intentions.
Nevertheless, the deal completely ignores repeated UN Security Council resolutions demanding that Tehran stop enrichment. Instead, it effectively legitimizes Iranian enrichment and allows it to continue.
Originally posted by ncargat1: Can not help but laugh at the UN ending up with egg on its face again. After the IAEA tries to legitimize the Iranian madman and his quest for nuclear missiles (in direct opposition to the UN Security Council, by the way), the Iranians have told the toothless UN, thanks but no thanks.
For what it is worth, it is probably irrelevant anyway. Iran has some pretty smart folks over there and with the assistance of Russia, China, and N. Korea they are going to develop nuclear missiles whether we like it or not. Does not change the fact that even the most tin-horned of dictators can and will embarrass the UN.
If the UN is powerless in cases like this, exactly what is there purpose?
Good, maybe the idea of MAD will get the other thug nation to act sanely!!! The one one with nuclear weapons in the ME and has given US the finger on NPT!!
Did anyone really expect anything differently. Iran will delay and delay until they make as much plutonium weapons grade material. At that time they will tell the UN to get the you know what out.
Originally posted by ncargat1: Can not help but laugh at the UN ending up with egg on its face again. After the IAEA tries to legitimize the Iranian madman and his quest for nuclear missiles (in direct opposition to the UN Security Council, by the way), the Iranians have told the toothless UN, thanks but no thanks.
For what it is worth, it is probably irrelevant anyway. Iran has some pretty smart folks over there and with the assistance of Russia, China, and N. Korea they are going to develop nuclear missiles whether we like it or not. Does not change the fact that even the most tin-horned of dictators can and will embarrass the UN.
If the UN is powerless in cases like this, exactly what is there purpose?
Good, maybe the idea of MAD will get the other thug nation to act sanely!!! The one one with nuclear weapons in the ME and has given US the finger on NPT!!
By sane, you mean like Hamas firing rockets into another Israel for nearly 600 straight days? That kind of sane??
Oh wait, the European Anti-Semites, the UN, and you do not consider any of that wrong. And apparently it is ok for Hamas to kill women and children in Israel and then HIDE like the UN and Iran sponsored ******* that they are, behind schools, behind women, and behind children, when actually confronted by an organized military.
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Originally posted by ncargat1: Can not help but laugh at the UN ending up with egg on its face again. After the IAEA tries to legitimize the Iranian madman and his quest for nuclear missiles (in direct opposition to the UN Security Council, by the way), the Iranians have told the toothless UN, thanks but no thanks.
For what it is worth, it is probably irrelevant anyway. Iran has some pretty smart folks over there and with the assistance of Russia, China, and N. Korea they are going to develop nuclear missiles whether we like it or not. Does not change the fact that even the most tin-horned of dictators can and will embarrass the UN.
If the UN is powerless in cases like this, exactly what is there purpose?
Good, maybe the idea of MAD will get the other thug nation to act sanely!!! The one one with nuclear weapons in the ME and has given US the finger on NPT!!
By sane, you mean like Hamas firing rockets into another Israel for nearly 600 straight days? That kind of sane??
Oh wait, the European Anti-Semites, the UN, and you do not consider any of that wrong. And apparently it is ok for Hamas to kill women and children in Israel and then HIDE like the UN and Iran sponsored ******* that they are, behind schools, behind women, and behind children, when actually confronted by an organized military.
Oooo those mighty rockets. The chinese built bottle rockets we use on 4th of July travel further!!!
Originally posted by ncargat1: Can not help but laugh at the UN ending up with egg on its face again. After the IAEA tries to legitimize the Iranian madman and his quest for nuclear missiles (in direct opposition to the UN Security Council, by the way), the Iranians have told the toothless UN, thanks but no thanks.
For what it is worth, it is probably irrelevant anyway. Iran has some pretty smart folks over there and with the assistance of Russia, China, and N. Korea they are going to develop nuclear missiles whether we like it or not. Does not change the fact that even the most tin-horned of dictators can and will embarrass the UN.
If the UN is powerless in cases like this, exactly what is there purpose?
Good, maybe the idea of MAD will get the other thug nation to act sanely!!! The one one with nuclear weapons in the ME and has given US the finger on NPT!!
By sane, you mean like Hamas firing rockets into another Israel for nearly 600 straight days? That kind of sane??
Oh wait, the European Anti-Semites, the UN, and you do not consider any of that wrong. And apparently it is ok for Hamas to kill women and children in Israel and then HIDE like the UN and Iran sponsored ******* that they are, behind schools, behind women, and behind children, when actually confronted by an organized military.
Oooo those mighty rockets. The chinese built bottle rockets we use on 4th of July travel further!!!
Yeah, because the US would stand for Mexico lobbing rockets into El Paso without striking back, right?
Posts: 1683 | Location: Too Far From Gainesville | Registered: February 17, 2008
Any rocket being fired by a billegerent state is worthy of retaliation. If you think they are so small why do you not go over there and stand by one when it lands. If it is a bottle rockect it should not bother you. Otherwise we will give up searching for body pieces after we find your butt hole!
