Expert pollsters are saying that Dems will lose VA and quite possibly NJ govenors race.

However the biggest surprise is the 23 NY Congressional race. This district went both for Hillary and prsident Obama last time around. Now it is looking like a staunch conservative is kicking butts and taking names.

What is going here? Can some of our more liberal Democractic friends here on the board give us their insight to these surprising conservative/pub leading races?

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Originally posted by Neil35:
Expert pollsters are saying that Dems will lose VA and quite possibly NJ govenors race.

However the biggest surprise is the 23 NY Congressional race. This district went both for Hillary and prsident Obama last time around. Now it is looking like a staunch conservative is kicking butts and taking names.

What is going here? Can some of our more liberal Democractic friends here on the board give us their insight to these surprising conservative/pub leading races?

The libs lost hope and want change!

Its called overplaying your hand and the dems do it everytime they come into power.

Spurdog, I think your right. Dems thought last election was a carte blanche to move to far left positions on just about everything. It will be interesting to see how the Dems re-work their pitches for 2010. As you say the change they were hoping for so far has not materialized.

Not a big deal. Both Governorships seem to always go to the opposite of the party of the president, so it stands to reason they both would turn republican.

As for the congressional race, unless I'm wrong I think that district is very conservative and has had a republican in that seat for a couple of decades, so if a democrat is doing well there then it shows the republicans are losing it's grip on a republican stronghold.

Obama was sold as a moderate, mainly by the media but he has been anything but and the independents are seeing the true radical that he is and who he answers too. And who is really writing the healthcare bill? Obama? No, the far left wing of the democratic party. Thats what is going on here. Yeah Lizard the gov. in Va. does swing but it hasnt gone dem. for a president since JFK I think and 10 months later the tide has completely turned the other way. Thats is a big deal.

NY Distict 23 voted both for Hillary and then for Obama. It may have been a conservative district before but it sure voted Liberal.

I have always though that the out years was always against the incumbent in office at the time. Dems must be very careful or they will lose their ability in 2010 to by-pass the Pubs and will not have a 60% pularality. If the Dems lose in 2010 bad enough, Obama is a lame duck from Jan 2011 on. That is something all politicians I am sure are aware of.

NY District 23 is a conservative district, and usually a safe district for republicans. Win that and republicans will act like noles after winning a home game against a directional school.

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Originally posted by Lava Lizard:
NY District 23 is a conservative district, and usually a safe district for republicans. Win that and republicans will act like noles after winning a home game against a directional school.

But isn't that how you start to come back? It's not like a conservative is going to go into a ultra liberal district and win. They have to focus on going back and winning old districts first. It shows the potential for Obama to lose some of the people that voted for him.

This by no way is a loss of power for Obama or the democrats but it is potentially the start of eroding the gains that the democrats won.

At the end of the day, the economy is going to determine whether Obama is a one or two term president. If the economy comes back like it was than Obama will win re-election. If not, he is a one term president.

I guess Obama Care is Doa Now

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Originally posted by scooby321@aol.com:
I guess Obama Care is Doa Now

And this is a tremendous loss to all of those people that are currently uninsured and uninsurable...

I hope everyone noticed that Dem Bill Owens
won the NY 23rd congressional race and not the conservative that Neil is crowing about in the opening post.The news is saying he's the first dem to win there since 1872.

Not that one seat makes a difference because it could all change next year.But congrats to the pub Governors who won in Va. and NJ. and lets hope all the negative political infighting nationally and in DC will subside.

I'm also hoping to win the state lottery again this week the same as I've been hoping since it began.I think my odds are better with the lottery than the dems and pubs coming together.

OP, you need to read my post from this morning. I wrote accolades for the Dems for keeping that seat and put the kabosh on Palin etc. as asupposed player. She may be a babe but she does not have panties big enough to play with the big boys.

I think you will find I am more of a realist and not some knee jerk Pub.

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Originally posted by Neil35:
OP, you need to read my post from this morning. I wrote accolades for the Dems for keeping that seat and put the kabosh on Palin etc. as asupposed player. She may be a babe but she does not have panties big enough to play with the big boys.

I think you will find I am more of a realist and not some knee jerk Pub.

I have no doubt the republicans would have kept that seat had the crazies not gotten involved. What republicans need to worry about is the same thing democrats have to worry about, and that's the extremists that can throw a monkey wrench into your election plans, and I see them doing that very thing against Crist here in Florida. I still believe Gore would have won had Ralph Nader not gotten in the race in 2000. Now I guess it's the republican's turn.

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Originally posted by Lava Lizard:

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Originally posted by Neil35:
OP, you need to read my post from this morning. I wrote accolades for the Dems for keeping that seat and put the kabosh on Palin etc. as asupposed player. She may be a babe but she does not have panties big enough to play with the big boys.

I think you will find I am more of a realist and not some knee jerk Pub.

I have no doubt the republicans would have kept that seat had the crazies not gotten involved. What republicans need to worry about is the same thing democrats have to worry about, and that's the extremists that can throw a monkey wrench into your election plans, and I see them doing that very thing against Crist here in Florida. I still believe Gore would have won had Ralph Nader not gotten in the race in 2000. Now I guess it's the republican's turn.

The Whigs or Dixiecrats are still alive and kicking. Scary how they want to purge and purify the party also. You call them crazies but I will refer to them as the "American Taliban Party" from now on. Only because they can't comprehend Fascism.

After all the con chest beating and so-called "liberal media" bleating about Dem losses on Tuesday, Nancy Pelosi finds herself with 2 more progressive votes than she had the day before.

Good job, GOP: you lost a seat you had held since the Civil War!